Wednesday, November 15, 2006

AFRICAN CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY comment on Civil Union Bill

AFRICAN CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATIC PARTY
REV KRJ MESHOE
14 NOVEMBER 2006

CIVIL UNION BILL

In the National Assembly today Rev K. Meshoe, ACDP President and MP, delivered the following speech on the Civil Union Bill:

This, I believe, is the saddest day of the twelve years of our democratic parliament, when some members of this house, led by the ruling party, will be attempting to pass into law the Civil Union Bill which is opposed by the overwhelming majority of our people. It is indeed very sad that the ANC leadership chose to support this Bill in spite of the overwhelming objections from bodies such as the Marriage Alliance representing millions of Christians, various other church and community groupings and the Congress of Traditional Leaders of South Africa. Their views have for all intents and purposes been ignored and rejected.

Honourable Steve Swart made excellent legal submissions on behalf of the ACDP during deliberations, in defence of the sanctity of traditional marriage, and argued that the definition of marriage as a voluntary union between a man and a woman should be protected by a constitutional amendment.
This argument was based on the fact that marriage was instituted by God the Almighty and not liberals, and that we value marriage and the family as the fundamental building block of society.

The ACDP, together with thousands of people and groupings that made submissions to parliament, have consistently stated that same-sex marriage should NOT be legalised, and that our Constitution should be amended to protect the sanctity of marriage as the voluntary union between a man and a woman.
The Civil Union Bill justifies immorality and by inference, calls sexual perversion a legitimate alternative lifestyle that should be openly accepted. It calls immorality and perversion true virtue and commendable freedom.
May I remind this House that rejecting God’s laws and despising His Word will result in those doing it being given over to the consequences of their sins and to divine wrath. Members must also be reminded that God is not mocked. If this Parliament under the instigation of the ANC passes this Bill today, then parliament shall have gone too far and is about to cross the line of God’s patience with us as a nation.

The prophet Isaiah said, and I quote, “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil, …woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.” Why are some forces trying to convince the nation that homosexuality is okay when God calls it abomination? For the sake of the peaceful future of this nation, members of this parliament must stop provoking God to anger as the men of Sodom and Gomorrhah did, and came under His judgement.

The writer of the book of Hebrews said, and I quote, “marriage should be honoured by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral”. Adultery, sexual immorality and homosexuality are grave sins in God’s sight since they are a transgression of His law and are defiling a marriage relationship between a man and a woman. With this Bill, the ruling party and all those who support it are inviting serious trouble on themselves without even considering the impact this Bill will have on future generations.

Whilst the ACDP appreciates that this bill is an attempt to meet the Constitutional Court ruling (the Fourie decision), we nevertheless believe it has gone beyond what was required by the Court.
Even if the Constitutional Court had required same-sex marriage, government could have, followed its OWN argument in both the Constitutional Court and the Supreme Court of Appeal when they argued that and I quote, “we will be out of step with the rest of the world if we allow same-sex marriages”, and then amending the constitution to protect heterosexual marriage. They could easily have done it if they wanted to.
The argument that Parliament could not amend the constitution flies in the face of this government’s approach to floor-crossing. When the Constitutional Court rejected the floor-crossing legislation for not having been passed in time, the ANC was quick to pass a constitutional amendment to allow floor-crossing. A constitutional amendment was all the more justifiable to protect the institution of marriage.

The liberal French parliament earlier this year ruled against same-sex marriages to protect children, citing article 7 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. “Children represent the future of society. They “must not suffer from conditions imposed upon them by adults… The best interests of the child must prevail over adult freedoms… even including the lifestyle choices of parents.”
If the Civil Union Bill is passed today, it will be with the most dire consequences for the ANC which is leading this onslaught against God’s moral law and plan for human beings.
The ACDP will definitely vote against the Civil Union Bill which is unscriptual, unAfrican and legalizes perversion.
Rev KRJ Meshoe, MP
ACDP President

107 comments:

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sheeba said...

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rusi said...

Hi,the definition of marriage as a voluntary union between a man and a woman should be protected by a constitutional amendment.
When the peopl and churches were not agreed with that bill why the government is making the law
I think civil union bill is against church members since Christians believe god’s word.
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andrewadam said...

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Noel said...

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swiss said...

Hi
Here I read the things what had happened some years ago in the parliament of Africa, where a bill was passed in the favor of homosexuals to get marry.The African Christian Democratic Party and some of the other organisations had given a strong opposition to that which as per my point of view is very justified, because I think even God will not allow this type of stupidious stuffs and it is a curse to the humanity. God has blessed us to leave a heavenly life and we are ruining his creation. So this is my opinion about the topic and this is definitely not going to be in the favor of common man.
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john said...

This site describes about the real relation of Marriage.But showing Disadvantages of Marital life, In my opinion it is not correct, and also argued a lot about the relations between man and a women but did not showing how to protect the relations and rules with the help of the Government,I did see this typy of site in my past it is good and new thought.

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swiss said...

Hi
This is all about homosexual marriage related topic. As per my point of view, it's not correct. The African Christian Democratic Party has raised the voice against it, which is quite justified and I in support of them.

martin said...

I think civil union bill is against church members since Christians believe god’s word.
Marriages are made in heaven.Traditional marriage and the natural family from the growing threats they face today.

swiss said...

The Defend Marriage is a very good blog as I read and came to know. The "African Christian Community", what is demanding is justified I think. But why the Civil Union wants to pass a bill like this, I couldn't understand as it is not in the favour of human being as per my point of view, as it is against the law of God.

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Christian's..,with this bill weather there are going to help the country development or there region development is going to happen..

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SuJaN Da RoCkR said...
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SuJaN Da RoCkR said...

I do agree with Steve Swart's submission on behalf of ACDP,marriages between a man and women should be protected by a constitutional amendment,they are not trying to think about what problems will araise in future.

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if people and community groupings are against this Bill then why should ruling party inject this sort of Bills

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shaik said...

The constitution pass the bills that should be help full to public not to create a issues in the public.The marriages shold be made according to Gods Laws.

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abiram said...

It is a protest agains on a bill which was passed in african government. It is the bill which states about legal action on Marriage. I think author can be explained in a practical way.

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